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he did get a head start in using it, but that can only count for so much
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but it looks like a new weapon is going to be coming online soon, should help
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MarcusAurelius 12/02/2018 4:47 PM
TDS as far as we know needs to be deployed locally, and to do that would require getting a foothold across the galactic gap and against a force they can barely fight and who have a massive energy advantage on them
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and we already know that you can punch right through TDS with enough energy behind your terraport; no reason something else with a ton of energy wouldn't be able to.
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MarcusAurelius 12/02/2018 4:52 PM
Like, say, a generator powered by Andromeda's supermassive black hole
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Why dont they just attach a schkadov thruster to the milky way and thrust away from the enemy? or even teraport???
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MarcusAurelius 12/03/2018 2:26 AM
energy limitations, mostly
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Morgrim Moon 12/03/2018 11:15 PM
Reworking a bit of story, and realised that a historical event involving the righteous murder of corrupt tax officials can't happen by bonfire in the way planned. Realised there IS a nice waterfall nearby, so tempted to take inspiration from Cerebrate and toss them over it.
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0111narwhalz 12/03/2018 11:16 PM
I'm intrigued as to what exactly precludes the bonfire solution.
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Morgrim Moon 12/03/2018 11:17 PM
Do not light bonfires in an arid inland forested area during peak fire season unless you want massive firestorms
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I approve this message.
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Well, both of them, really.
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0111narwhalz 12/03/2018 11:18 PM
ah, yes, that would indeed make that solution rather less attractive
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Morgrim Moon 12/03/2018 11:20 PM
(any reading Eldrae would be unhappy that this good start was followed by, a good few decades later, being conquered by a military dictatorship, leaving this local equivalent of Guy Fawkes night as one of the few surviving cultural festivals)
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Also @Overmind I do like your nickname on the ToughSF server. šŸ˜„
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MarcusAurelius 12/05/2018 4:24 PM
Euro NCAP safety rating of the FIAT Panda: detailed results, crash test pictures, videos and comments from experts
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is 16% good or bad?
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MarcusAurelius 12/05/2018 5:37 PM
Read the detailed stuff, it straight up got 0 points on the 6/10 year old test (edited)
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i have script-safe on, so half the site failed to load and I didn't know what I was gonna be looking at
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MarcusAurelius 12/05/2018 6:00 PM
Yeah itā€™s got a fancy overbuilt layout
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Morgrim Moon 12/05/2018 6:08 PM
it's safer to be hit by the fiat than in the fiat hitting something. That's impressive
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0111narwhalz 12/05/2018 9:08 PM
sounds like Fiat's safety is fiat
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MarcusAurelius 12/05/2018 9:18 PM
etiam subjunctivum amasne?
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I find it really hard to believe that Australia's government is accidentally this stupid.
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What joys are they giving us today?
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That anti-encryption law.
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Anyone else playing Stellaris 2.2?
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Oh, that I find very easy to believe, given that they've tried this several times before and so have other major governments.
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That said, while I'm sure a contributing factor to it is the same kind of we-can-legislate-reality stupidity that once led to bills setting pi to 3, there are some other explanations that also fit: 1. "We're the government; we don't have to give a shit about anyone else's privacy". and 2. "The point is not to ban encryption; the point is being able to prosecute anyone who uses encryption, in our never-ending quest to make sure we've got something to charge everyone with just in case we want to."
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You know, if you think about it, all these explanations are terrible for everyone else (well, in Australia, or actually most western countries). Yay!
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Oh, and "If people can protect themselves on-line, they'll need us less. This infringes on our monopoly, and so THIS IS UNACCCEPTABLE." (edited)
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@KAL_9000 Still downloading, here.
12:24
Well, I am a libertarian. But even allowing for my natural biases, it's amazing how often evil turns out to be the most parsimonious explanation for these things.
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Well, the political system does select for people like that a bit...
12:27
You're more likely to be elected if you're better at manipulating people/are charismatic/whatever, and the amount of people who actually notice "hey, this law is impossible to implement and stupid" is much smaller than the amount of voters.
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Speaking of Stellaris 2.2: With my government being a Megacorporation, I started with Syncretic Evolution, set my Syncretic species to look the same as my main species, and named the Syncretic species Interns šŸ˜„
12:39
Genius, right?
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I like.
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Seems more belike like politicians being unable to deal with the fact that the internet isn't the real world in terms of security and accessability public-versus-private, TBH.
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And instead of adapting to how ultimately the internet just has to work, they try to force the internet to behave like physical reality.
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Also, if the law passes... give it a month until the first big data breach scandal.
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A year until they have to revoke it because every single hacker on the globe will thoroughly demonstrate why having backdoors in encryption is a bad idea.
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Honestly, I doubt it'll actually change.
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Probably, lots of problems, government says "BUT TERRORISTS", people get bored of issue.
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Morgrim Moon 12/06/2018 6:09 PM
remember, Turnbull said that the Laws of Mathematics should bow to the legal laws of Australia
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I've already written to a few politicians about it pointing out that demanding companies make backdoors without breaking encryption is like demanding someone walk without touching the ground.
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MarcusAurelius 12/06/2018 6:32 PM
ā€œIā€™m a leader not a computer scientistā€ -the least condescending accurate response they could send you
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Morgrim Moon 12/06/2018 6:35 PM
2 letters were the standard protesty stuff. One is likely to actually get him to vote against it, if only because he's on first name terms with my mum and it was more "yeah, so you know how I was doing science education? Here's the laymans terms summary of why it's physically impossible, and a dash of how it'll blow up in the government's face, you probably don't want to be holding the ball on that"
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MarcusAurelius 12/06/2018 6:46 PM
out of how many votes? (edited)
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Morgrim Moon 12/06/2018 6:49 PM
I dunno what the mixture is likely to be yet
18:50
(thru weird circumstances mum knew a LOT of politicians when I was growing up. I got more happy 18th birthday cards from them than from my school friends)
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0111narwhalz 12/06/2018 6:51 PM
"Happy birthday! Vote for me!"
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Morgrim Moon 12/06/2018 6:51 PM
pretty much XD
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mum taught their kids/grandkids, mostly
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I'm not sure whether to congratulate you on your lucky connections, or be horrified on your behalf.....
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Morgrim Moon 12/06/2018 8:13 PM
It's little more than an amusing quirk the vast majority of the time. I think this is the second time in a decade it's been potentially useful.
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(the other was 'this important government website has incorrect info and a broken Contact Us form. Can you get an intern to go email whomever is responsible for fixing it?')
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So, playing as a Megacorp in Stellaris I ā€œEnlightenā€ a primitive planet, normally theyā€™d become a protectorate but since Megacorps have ā€œsubsidiariesā€ instead of normal vassal types they can expand but pay me 25% of their income
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Wasnā€™t there a company in the ā€˜verse that did something similar?
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Morgrim Moon 12/06/2018 11:03 PM
Working in a lab has odd perks. Like someone walking into the lab and wanting to know why there is 2L of fish blood on the bench.
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0111narwhalz 12/06/2018 11:23 PM
has 2L bottles of fish blood on every bench
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was it O-?
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Morgrim Moon 12/06/2018 11:26 PM
I don't know if fish have the same blood proteins
23:26
We're testing oil content, anyway.
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is that why there was 2l of fish blood?
23:30
Best Lab Story I ever heard: they tried the dry Ice bottle thing with a Dumpster
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Second Best: they were testing oil samples and sunk the barge they were on
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Morgrim Moon 12/06/2018 11:33 PM
This is, sadly, an industrial lab and not a research lab. Which limits the crazy
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ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ
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Morgrim Moon 12/06/2018 11:51 PM
Although we did exceed our annual allotment of fires and explosions back in august
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And the minerals team blew up a dishwasher about a month ago
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wtf
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Morgrim Moon 12/06/2018 11:59 PM
I think they managed to send too much current thru it
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you have an annual allotment of fires and explosions?
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I knew a guy who tried to imitate Walter White as much as possible, short of meth of course
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Morgrim Moon 12/07/2018 12:01 AM
...yes? I mean, this is a working lab, a certain amount is just occupational hazard
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As long as nobody gets hurt and not too much broken, it's not a big deal.
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...I may have an odd perspective, admittedly
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Occupational Integrity gets cranky if it happens too much, though
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hmmmm, so what does Marvel get to do post-endgame?
09:24
is that the plan where they rotate over to a second generation of heros and actors?
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Morgrim Moon 12/07/2018 9:42 AM
I think so? Too many of their first wave cast are going to start aging out, Downey's already in that bucket
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I'm still just stunned that they have managed to pull this series off in the first place
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In this morning's Stellaris-ing, our friendly materialist xenophiles met their neighbors: two sets of determined exterminators, two hegemonic imperialists, and a xenophobic military junta of godbotherers.
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1.5 of the determined exterminators: now exterminated.
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Local philosophers are busy inventing militant xenophilia.
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a.k.a. "You lot are all going to BE NICE and GET ALONG, even if we have to KILL YOU ALL to do it."
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So, the first Caravaneer fleet to visit me sold me a ā€œgarbage disposalā€ that confuses orbital defense networks.
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The second offered five specialist POPs for 500 Unity. When I didnā€™t pay one POP escaped and requested asylum.
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Morgrim Moon 12/08/2018 9:16 AM
eek
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Last checked the ā€œoriginal POPā€ were employed as entertainers on the homeworld with a couple new ones of the species working as clerks on a colony
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So, realized my Enlightened Subsidiaries were struggling and maxing out Generator districts to pay their tribute. Most I could do was occasionally send them whatever resources they were underproducing.
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Eventually I decided to release them and build branch offices, only to realize their populations were too low to build anything.
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Exterminated all the exterminators now, and conquered one of the imperialists.
03:44
Feeling like I should change my name to the Empire of Palpable Irony.
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Morgrim Moon 12/09/2018 7:31 AM
https://66.media.tumblr.com/a56829af33734bc7a820e514a2e4dca8/tumblr_inline_pjap5rOLfy1qgc2ta_500.png while I appreciate the innovation, this is not how you trim a hedge
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Improvisation: the essence of genius.
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Enderminion 12/09/2018 1:05 PM
or insanity
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I'm pretty sure he can't hear you over the awesomeness of his idea.
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Perhaps you could install rails in the hedge for it to run on instead.
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Morgrim Moon 12/09/2018 3:34 PM
See, that could actually work. That photo is will not
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the only thing that matters is his success. If it works, it's brilliant.
18:25
if it fails, it's insanity
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0111narwhalz 12/09/2018 6:51 PM
The most glorious things are those which are both.
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Elon Musk intensifies
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"How do you keep the lasers focused over long distances?" "Femtoscale dogs herd the photons together into an orderly beam." "---what?" "They're colliemated." šŸ˜Ž
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Morgrim Moon 12/11/2018 6:12 AM
Is 'triage' a big thing in many non-medical industries? Like "you have this variety of fires, figure out which ones you put out and in what order and which you give up on for now/forever" sort of triage?
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Someone I know who is in infosec does it. Especially on projects that need a rescue
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Morgrim Moon 12/11/2018 8:20 AM
I'm curious because it's a significant portion of my job
08:20
and my job is laboratory dispatch/logistics
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as a software dev, we often do that when we have a lot of issues come in at once (edited)
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As a sysadmin, all the freakin' time.
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> "Astrokaszy's post-Star League," Zippo drawled. "Lower standards. Besides, this is the Periphery. No building code." How I imagine Star League design: ā€œAh, Captain-Architect! Here are the plans for the new grocery store.ā€ ā€œHmm... good... good... wait, whatā€™s this? The roof can only support 90 tons? Do you want me to inform First Lord Cameronā€™s Royal Guard that they cannot park even a single Atlas on top of your store?ā€ (edited)
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>Wow, they must have hired the budget architect. Dude isn't even considering having the grocery store roof rated for emergency DropShip landings. A DropShip on top of a grocery store of all things would be insane. You build the fencing and walls around the parking lot so that they can endure the launch and landing blasts from the rockets, and make said parking lots big enough that you can park... I think three Overlords at once should suffice. SLDF is combined arms, which means armor units that won't have jumpers to get down from the roof. You need to plan these things with consideration for the forces being deployed, after all. Trying to stick a DropShip on the roof of a grocery store is the sort of impulsive city planning that leads to the hot mess that the Caliph is running.
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My primary concern - how the fuck did the Atlas get on the roof?
12:56
An Atlas can't jump and can't rig jumpjets at combat weight.
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Atlases can still use one-shot jets for orbital drops or from a high altitude dropship pasd
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Well, at least that's honest.
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THis must be a game on a local LAN. Such politeness
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MarcusAurelius 12/11/2018 3:14 PM
No, I think it's one of the two flavors of non-native speakers. There's the only knows curse words type, and there's the excessively polite type
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....I think I know the second one from several of my coworkers.
15:28
so many emails end with "please do the needful"
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MarcusAurelius 12/11/2018 3:57 PM
It's smart when you don't know a culture's exact thresholds to veer on the safe side
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especially when there's a higher than usual occurance of "errors caused by language gap"
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MarcusAurelius 12/11/2018 9:16 PM
Weloome to the hill country, ladies and Gents
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Enderminion 12/11/2018 9:22 PM
"hill"
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MarcusAurelius 12/11/2018 9:24 PM
Yeah, anything short of the Davis Mountains out in West Texas is called a hill
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Enderminion 12/11/2018 9:32 PM
its like, not even
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MarcusAurelius 12/11/2018 9:32 PM
...Where's your cutoff for hill?
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0111narwhalz 12/11/2018 9:42 PM
Where does a pile become a mound?
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I find myself curious as to how blocking works on Discord. Do the blocked parties know that they're screaming into the void?
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MarcusAurelius 12/12/2018 12:25 AM
I dunno. I'm guessing you blocked Tabac?
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Way before the whole critique thing came along, actually.
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On the grounds that if someone isn't willing to accept simplifying assumptions in an argument - not even specific ones, but the entire concept of simplifying assumptions - then you might as well go ahead and flip the bozo bit right there.
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Well, for me it was bar with "X blocked messages" written on it that I could click to see in
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MarcusAurelius 12/12/2018 1:16 AM
He's used to dealing with idiots trying to press their vision on current reality, from what I've seen. Plus, he was drunk both of the bad times
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guesses this refers to someplace else
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MarcusAurelius 12/12/2018 1:20 AM
ToughSF server
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Tabac is a grouch.
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A very conservative grouch at that.
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Morgrim Moon 12/12/2018 8:27 AM
the stuff in technicalities has reminded me of something, @Overmind : I'm not sure how much of a history buff you are, but a fun battle you may appreciate (extrapolating from 'you seem to like the things your eldrae appreciate) is the Battle of Beersheba in WW1. Notable for being one of the most successful light cavalry charges in history, despite it being in World War 1 and directly at machine guns. Pulled off by a combination of sheer nerve, a solid understanding of both the aussie and the turkish/german capabilities, skillful use of local conditions and for want of a better word the then current 'battle meta', and someone who knew their history lessons. And a dash of last ditch desperation.
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Random terrible slow, but efficient assassination method. Medium-to-low bioengineering tech level, so possible right now-ish. Get someone's DNA or cell sample. Produce immortalized cell line, abuse until suffiently cancerous, covertly inject back in. Horribly fatal, if with some chance of failure, and somewhat hard to distinguish from natural cancer.
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why don't you just shoot them? (edited)
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Because you are vindictive asshole that wants death to be long, painful and hard to trace back to you?
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wow
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okay then
13:20
The Guardians of Our Harmony will tackle you for this kind of insanity, you know?
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MarcusAurelius 12/13/2018 1:30 PM
not if you do it outside the Empire they won't
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On the EldrƦverse Discord, we are all EldrƦ
13:30
Or some philosophical bullshit like that
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MarcusAurelius 12/13/2018 1:34 PM
Eh, Val hyĆŗmanĆ”r
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does not have my EldrƦic dictionary on hand
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MarcusAurelius 12/13/2018 1:38 PM
"I am humaning"
13:39
posthuman body switching intensifies
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MarcusAurelius 12/13/2018 1:39 PM
nah just how Eldraeic works, it's like Malay when forming adjectives
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MarcusAurelius 12/13/2018 1:42 PM
Yep. Linguistics is occasionally useful, using someone's else's conlang is one of those times
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occasionally
13:43
you mean always?
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MarcusAurelius 12/13/2018 1:44 PM
In an obvious way, I guess
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Just be glad I didn't inflict mine on you, the latter two are rather less easy to parse
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heh
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SpaceCore
Finds fractional expansions of the square root of two
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It's probably not a good idea to manipulate fractions via string operations.
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that's what she said
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MarcusAurelius 12/13/2018 1:59 PM
什éŗ¼ Š“ŠøŠŗсыстŠø? (edited)
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0111narwhalz 12/13/2018 2:06 PM
ā€½
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TotallyNotHuman 12/13/2018 2:13 PM
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.nairtsedep yrev ,hsilgne sdrawkcab tsuj si siht
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MarcusAurelius 12/13/2018 2:33 PM
My favorite way of breaking machine translation. Mix traditional Mandarin with Latin transliterated in Cyrillic
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In any case cancer is a fairly minor disease to Eldrae (edited)
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seems like one that never really goes away though, new ones keep popping up
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and if your nanites go wrong, ick
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[cancer] It wasn't that much of a problem even before artificial immune systems were a thing, unless it went metastatic. If you're going to live forever, your immune system has to have some way to kick the ass of wannaneoplasms before they start getting problematic. And living on a world with more power metals in the crust and so more background radiation only multiplies the effect. (edited)
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(At least for small critters. Turns out that while some of the biggest whales get cancer, they basically never die from cancer, because before a tumor can grow big enough to kill them, the tumor itself develops tumors which kill it . Cancer cells being more or less defined by sucking at cooperation, and all.)
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0111narwhalz 12/14/2018 12:30 AM
A tumor large enough to kill a whale is fully equipped to not kill the whale.
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Drawing based on Patron poll from random theme generator: "Uncommon office incident"
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As people don't understand when I'm not talking in eldraeverse context in place intended for that...
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Sometimes I really hate Android. It makes it really annoying to access internals and do backups etc., you can't even change the DNS settings, and you get no updates after a year or so.
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At least not planned obsolete via all the means apple
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It's better in some ways! iOS actually gets updates for several years.
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0111narwhalz 12/15/2018 3:41 AM
Some would recommend shoving a real Linux distro in it.
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There's a thing called postmarketOS but I like being able to use my phone as a phone.
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0111narwhalz 12/15/2018 3:43 AM
VoIP?
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Morgrim Moon 12/15/2018 3:58 AM
Coverage for phone and text is a lot wider and more than internet
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Reliable
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MarcusAurelius 12/15/2018 4:34 PM
There are a lot of areas in the US and Australia where you have essentially no data coverage but you get phone and text device
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Noooooooooooooooooooo
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Yes šŸ˜
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Morgrim Moon 12/18/2018 8:31 AM
related to the god and entropy discussion: now I kinda want to write a short story where some entity 'ascends' with the intention of fixing the universe... and meets a deity who is ecstatic at the prospect of getting someone help, they're aware the local maxima is suboptimal but all their attempts at fixing it have resulted in disaster, here is a heap of research pls help *tailwag tailwag*
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"If you can find a potential way of solving this I'll show you how to spin up a small test universe, we've got some recorded mindstates of heaven-testers if we get something semi-stable, and if it looks like we've hit a better local maxima I'll give you root access and we can work out how to transition it into the main line! :DDDDD"
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Would read!
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Morgrim Moon 12/18/2018 8:34 AM
(I suspect if the Transcend were that entity, there would be some moments of confusion and realigning of priors - "god is not blind and stupid, just a struggling sysadmin who needs some resourcing pronto" - and then roll up its sleeves and get cracking)
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Reminds me a little bit of Uriel, and would probably be an interesting noblis-type game.
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I figure most people here understand physics and biology better than this guy https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/thermodynamics
Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal -
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/18/2018 4:49 PM
I died.
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And now your mind has been reinstantiated in a fresh body!
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MarcusAurelius 12/18/2018 4:50 PM
Welcome to the vast majority of conspiracy theory physics
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have yā€™all heard of the ā€œelectric universe theoryā€?
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how's that different from simulation hypothesis?
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/18/2018 5:07 PM
I'd kill to play the Eldrae version of pubg tbh
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I want to play one of their immersive sims....... which is probably any of their FPS'
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MarcusAurelius 12/18/2018 5:35 PM
Not ā€œelectronicā€. Itā€™s people who believe Gravity is fake, and planets are held together by electricity
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john dougan(his grace/his grace) 12/18/2018 6:22 PM
i though they believed in gravity, but thought it had a bigger role in cosmology than the standard story?
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Morgrim Moon 12/18/2018 9:20 PM
I've just discovered my company publicly releases its pricing strategy and is pretty shameless in talking about boosting price for added services, even if the service costs less to add. o.o "Here's how, here's why, here's the circumstances we give discounts and the sort of value, and btw this is compulsory training for everyone of ( CEO -n) rank." I'm increasingly thinking I work for a company that would survive a contact with the Associated Worlds
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john dougan(his grace/his grace) 12/18/2018 10:50 PM
Transparent pricing? In which industry?
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MarcusAurelius 12/18/2018 10:57 PM
They might be transparent about the individual compandnts of a price, but it sounds like quite the effort to figure out which ones apply to you
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Morgrim Moon 12/18/2018 11:07 PM
3rd party verification and testing, SGS. "How much x in your y", basically
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Itā€™s called Star Wars. Not Star Trek, not Star Peace, not Star Friends, not even Star Tales. This gargantuan fictional universe is labeled with a title that guarantees the ability to travel sā€¦
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Enderminion 12/19/2018 3:36 PM
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a really big gun
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hmmm, the death in childbirth is a very fantasy trope, come to mind
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or at least, historical
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but it doesn't seem to be remarked on as odd, or as something the midwife droid can do anything about
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There are a few different explanations given for that: The movie version. Apparently expanded on in hte book that the droids were incompetent and were covering it up. The common fan theory that he poisoned her with the dark side (why this isn't the movie version is anyone's guess)
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If the droids were incompetent how did Luke and Leia survive?
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But, yeah, the whole series is Lord of the Rings in Space!
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Is that statement charitable or uncharitable to Tolkien?
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/19/2018 4:14 PM
Can I just say that it's funny how many people describe cruelty and neglecting outgroup people as being inhuman
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Because Shitting On The Other Tribe is literally one of the most innately human things there is
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Inhuman is a pretty stupid term most of the time anyway.
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0111narwhalz 12/19/2018 4:41 PM
Calling people "inhuman" is a form of Shitting On The Other Tribe, as BizarroLand put it :V
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Especially since the MCU started using the Inhumans as stand-ins for Mutants.
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Not that the Lunar Inhumans are any better than the humans they hide from.
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0111narwhalz 12/19/2018 8:37 PM
To the linguists here: What's the opposite of a gerund?
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That is: if a gerund turns a verb into a noun, what turns a noun into a verb?
20:43
Further research has elucidated the answer: "denominal verb"
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Everything comes crashing down harder when the person who stomps you into the ground is objectively weaker than you in every way, and defeats you using a method you consider to be utterly idiotic.
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/19/2018 11:42 PM
what
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About revenge and wise ways to spend money
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Good article on Star Wars @Overmind
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I built a primitive self-replicator in Factorio using the Recursive Blueprints mod. It works brilliantly at making my game very laggy.
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MarcusAurelius 12/20/2018 11:10 AM
@Tassadar is it a school event or is that just the transportation?
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School event. Playing String Bass in a concert at the Children's Hospital.
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MarcusAurelius 12/20/2018 11:11 AM
Thatā€™s cool
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Yes it is.
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@gollark is your avatar a Sierpinski pizza?
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It looks like a Sierpinski pizza (edited)
11:45
Oh wait the "pepperoni" is connected by lines
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It's a hyperbolic tiling of some sort.
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It's a sierpinski pizza.
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0111narwhalz 12/20/2018 3:49 PM
It's a heptagonal-hexagonal tiling.
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This is a new one. A team of drone operators very deliberately shutting down a busy international airport. No ransom demand so no clue why
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MarcusAurelius 12/20/2018 8:47 PM
Trolling, ā€œ4 teh lulzā€
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Morgrim Moon 12/20/2018 8:47 PM
Someone send Gatwick some Wedge tailed eagles
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Last I heard they were positioning snipers to shoot it down.
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MarcusAurelius 12/20/2018 8:48 PM
If this was in the south, theyā€™d just declare open season and wait for cousin Jimbo to roll in with a 6 pack of PBR and truck load of good olā€™ boys
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Cellphone video obtained Wednesday by Local 10 News shows the moment a man fell to the ground after he was fatally struck by a stray bullet during a holiday party in southwest Miami-Dade County.
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MarcusAurelius 12/20/2018 8:50 PM
Yup
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Too many civilians present.
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MarcusAurelius 12/20/2018 8:51 PM
Use birdshot. Extremely unlikely to kill a person on the way back down
20:51
And itā€™s dirt cheap
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Morgrim Moon 12/20/2018 8:58 PM
Also doesn't go high enough, sadly :(
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0111narwhalz 12/20/2018 9:01 PM
not with that attitude
21:02
Use flakā€”goes up like slug, comes down like birdshot
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MarcusAurelius 12/20/2018 9:03 PM
12 gauge birdshot goes pretty high, I doubt most sniper rounds are going to be accurate much higher than that altitude
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Morgrim Moon 12/20/2018 9:16 PM
Ah, I've only used small gauge birdshot
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MarcusAurelius 12/20/2018 9:18 PM
Hard to tell, but some of the ducks Iā€™ve hit were easily 100+ feet up and a few hundred laterally
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/22/2018 12:05 AM
In regards to space settlement: For my part, I am not convinced by arguments that go along the line of 'We evolved for Earth!'. At all. It may seem insane to people, but think: We ''evolved'' to be tribalistic pursuit predators in savannahs wearing skins at the most. Technology and civilization, all of the luxuries this argument induces you to think are natural, everything around you really is way, way outside of the envelope we evolved to accomodate. The ship of 'We Are Meant To Do XYZ' sailed millenia ago.
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We weren't meant to live in groupings larger than 150, have sedentary 8-hour jobs, read, listen to music or watch television, or have any ambition beyond being forest-bound huntergatherers (edited)
00:06
And honestly, fuck following that box
00:07
It feels selective as hell when people bring up that canard
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 12:07 AM
"canard" quack?
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/22/2018 12:07 AM
canard can be a cliche argument as well as a type of winglet (edited)
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 12:08 AM
ah
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MarcusAurelius 12/22/2018 6:55 AM
Good thing Rufus isnā€™t here, heā€™d sick his full French wrath on you
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Ou Mon Dieu not zhe Rufus Shinra!
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MarcusAurelius 12/22/2018 6:59 AM
May he reign eternal in whatever forums havenā€™t banned him yet
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That puts a theoretical half-life on forums in which he remains.
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MarcusAurelius 12/22/2018 7:01 AM
Sounds accurate. Iā€™d suggest we run a betting pool to see how long itā€™ll take until he gets another ban, but I like he guy too much to do that
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/22/2018 7:09 AM
@MarcusAurelius I didn't realize he was also anal about terminology
07:09
Frankly I don
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MarcusAurelius 12/22/2018 7:26 AM
Nah, you just insulted canards
07:26
He loves his duckies
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/22/2018 7:27 AM
so he's anal because dude i had no idea that canards were also ducks in french
07:27
christ the baguette double entendres never come to a finale
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MarcusAurelius 12/22/2018 7:34 AM
He loves the Rafale especially and any plane with canards in general, the ducks are a pun off of that
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/22/2018 7:37 AM
so many jokes
07:38
07:39
@MarcusAurelius ^me when i see a rufus post
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Sigh. Why must the terrible format that is GIFs continue to be propagated?
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Morgrim Moon 12/22/2018 7:39 AM
because making mp4s is a LOT harder on the creator
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There's probably some really simple conversion tool now.
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Morgrim Moon 12/22/2018 7:40 AM
if you find one let me know, until then I'm sticking to gifs
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I googled it, apparently ffmpeg can do it.
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Morgrim Moon 12/22/2018 7:44 AM
I'm now looking at that, and that's an entire huge program specifically for video manipulation
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I'm not installing a video suite just to make looking at small animations slightly more convenient for a small number of people. *shrugs*
07:45
Now, if there was a small reliable plugin for something like GIMP that could take the same "here are 5 frames I am animating" and turn them into mp4 instead of gif, that would be reasonable
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MarcusAurelius 12/22/2018 7:45 AM
Its a reaction image, I really donā€™t care about image quality or frame rate above the bare minimum
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It doesn't matter a huge amount, true, but they do also have terrible filesize usually.
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/22/2018 7:46 AM
If only he weren't banned so I could use it as a forum weapon
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MarcusAurelius 12/22/2018 7:48 AM
Heā€™s still on QQ I think, and one of the other SB offshoots
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/22/2018 7:48 AM
Too bad there aren't more gifs of Duck Hunt
07:51
I'd abuse all of them when going up against that fellow
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MarcusAurelius 12/22/2018 7:54 AM
Eh, it wouldnā€™t be as effective as youā€™d think. Heā€™s pretty good at fighting fire with Fire, thatā€™s why he got banned from SB and SV
07:55
He couldnā€™t contain himself when he was dealing with people he thought were idiots
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/22/2018 8:01 AM
From what I remember a lot of his behavior was unprovoked
08:01
And I'm prideful if nothing else
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@MarcusAurelius Half the time I saw him he was waltzing into threads waving around his e-peen with no-one starting anything so, frankly, good riddance (edited)
08:05
The only thing restraining my maximum shitposting capacity is my knowledge regarding the person and frankly, the fact that most webzones don't allow you to openly shit on people
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MarcusAurelius 12/22/2018 8:10 AM
Yeah, They give him so many opportunities to clean up his act and he couldnā€™t.
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Morgrim Moon 12/22/2018 10:38 PM
Me 30 minutes ago: this spray primer washes off, no worries Me after 5 minutes of scrubbing: ...so what solvent works on this stuff, again?
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 10:40 PM
acetone and atomic fire
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Morgrim Moon 12/22/2018 11:23 PM
I have purchased acetone
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 11:24 PM
Mind that you wear gloves :V
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Morgrim Moon 12/22/2018 11:26 PM
I can't, it's my skin that's currently matt black
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 11:27 PM
ā€¦oh
23:27
In that case, you might be better off waiting for it to shed off.
23:27
Acetone being fairly toxic and all.
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Morgrim Moon 12/22/2018 11:28 PM
Acetone is more chronic than acute; wash it off well after and moisturise for good measure and it's not too bad
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 11:28 PM
well, you know more than I
23:28
and in any case it's your skin :V
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Morgrim Moon 12/22/2018 11:29 PM
It's main non inhalation risk is dermatitis, and I know how to mitigate that.
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 11:30 PM
Go for it, then.
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Morgrim Moon 12/22/2018 11:31 PM
(this is less crazy than the time I sterilised my hands with fire)
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 11:32 PM
Iā€”wha?
23:33
I mean, it had to have been proper fire, else they wouldn't've been sterile, butā€¦
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Morgrim Moon 12/22/2018 11:34 PM
Microbiological grade ethanol + the burner for sterilising loops = I will take mild sunburn over contracting Q fever thanks
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 11:35 PM
"Q fever" sounds like some sort of infectious ontotech.
23:38
symptoms include: quasi-omnipotence, being kind of an ass
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Morgrim Moon 12/22/2018 11:47 PM
unfortunately it's like a really nasty flu (except bacterial), that is as far as I know not transmissible human to human but contracted direct from animals. A couple of people in my lab are immunised against it for when we're testing farm and abattoir waste
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I am no longer black. I am stained pale grey with black speckles. I figure that's good enough
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I knew a guy who worked at a lab, Walter White was his role model
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 11:52 PM
sounds like a dangerous role model
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extremely, he used Mortar shells to clear tree stumps
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 11:53 PM
ā€¦I mean
23:53
That'll certainly do it :V
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he taught his lab the Dry ice bottle bomb trick, which they applied to a dumpster
23:53
that lab sank a barge
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 11:53 PM
D:
23:53
Did they recover it? :V
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idk
23:54
He wanted to make some Extremely powerful shock sensitive explosives, just cause
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0111narwhalz 12/22/2018 11:54 PM
how many lists is this guy on?
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how many are there?
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/23/2018 12:06 AM
wagie wagie get in cagie all day long you sweat and ragie neet is comfy, neet is cool (NEET is also utterly and helplessly dependent on the mercy of their benefactor which may be retracted at any time, but if it makes them feel better about being unemployable)
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Morgrim Moon 12/23/2018 8:41 PM
All the benefits of modern detection methods, but "...why can I smell acid?" still trips first. ._.
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/23/2018 8:43 PM
Hue
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I am becoming one with the meme: https://i.redd.it/h41dgrvjo8621.jpg (also proud of my first colorfill not turning out like crap)
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Morgrim Moon 12/24/2018 10:56 AM
Show us the finished product once you're done. It'll help me figure out which end is the front
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Will be a while, don't even have all the parts collected yet
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(for reference to anyone else who doesn't know: the threaded thing that goes up is where the buffer tube screws in, and thus the rear.) (edited)
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If only that meme existed in-'verse, 'cause there would totally be a No Step On Snek Arms, ICC.
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Yo, since the biochauvinist group got roasted, literally, how have they been faring?
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/24/2018 12:42 PM
@Unknown Link? I want to see that
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@Ian Bruene OH DAYUM
12:43
I wish I could still fire guns without fear of lead poisoning
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 12:43 PM
steel ammo?
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or copper...
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The lead in firearms is relatively safe, in it's metallic form, lead is unlikely to leach into the environment
12:44
It's only if you have it as something like good ol' TEL
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unless he means he is in a place where the police come shoot you if you have a gun
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/24/2018 12:44 PM
The only thing I've ever fired is glocks and airsoft pistols
12:45
Also, lead dust from bullets spreads really far
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 12:45 PM
...one of those is not a gun
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It's only deadly if, say, somebody decides to shoot you with said bullet
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Yes, that is a more significant problem.
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then lead poisining will be the least of your problems (edited)
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 12:45 PM
And I guess technically? But its a negligible amount. Do you have a special sensitivity or something?
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An amount of inmeasurable number (edited)
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You should worry more about accidentally shooting yourself or something.
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Well, shouldn't be slurping those lead smoothies
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use FMJ, cuts down on the lead considerably
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unless you have some special suseptability, it isn't enough to be a big problem. Just clean up afterwards and don't do anything stupid like shooting leadnose and then picking up a hamburger
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 12:47 PM
Or just hurting yourself with the weapon. Scope eye, shoulder bruising, or getting caught on the action of powerful pistol with bad form
12:48
Whatā€™s your point? Of course if your in a worst case scenario its possible
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@MarcusAurelius I have a 10/22 in a bullpup stock....... shooting left handed I introduced myself to the fact that it has a reciprocating bolt. Once
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 12:49 PM
...ouch. Iā€™ve yet to give myself scope eye, but I beat up my shoulder a few times as a kid when I didnā€™t treat a shooting iron with the tender love and care it deserves (edited)
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the air quality problem depends heavily on the range: a old hole in the wall, yeah, thats a problem. A nice modern range with good back to front airflow? Completely different story
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 12:50 PM
Even the old hole-in-the-wall sounds like a chronic and not acute danger, and a relatively low level one at that
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/24/2018 12:51 PM
The range I go to is outdoors
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12:51
The first time I fired a gun there I was 11
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 12:51 PM
Then your fine outside of it being in a Bizzare land
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/24/2018 12:52 PM
I have no brain damage to speak of so?
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 12:53 PM
Then that extreme low chance didnā€™t occur to you
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Sadly I'm currently in a bit of a desert for range selection.
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/24/2018 12:54 PM
The stalls are roofed but the actual targets are open to the air
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 12:55 PM
....these dangers are for worse-case scenario, effectively unventilated indoor buildings. A rain shelter at an outdoor range is not the same thing
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Re: bullets and lead poisoning, isn't there a pretty serious issue where vultures are dying from the lead after trying to eat stuff which was shot and getting some of the shot as well as meat?
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 6:40 PM
People shoot stuff and then just leave it for the vultures?
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 6:53 PM
Pest control stuff. Hogs, foxes, that sort of thing
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 6:58 PM
rude
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 7:00 PM
At least in Texas, quite often youā€™re not allowed to pick up hogs
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:01 PM
I'm sure there's a reason for that, but it sure sounds like one of those dumb laws.
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 7:04 PM
IIRC it has to do with how itā€™s legally considered pest control and not hunting
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:05 PM
So are you also not allowed to grind up termites into a tasty* protein-filled snack? :V
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 7:06 PM
Slightly difference in obviousness, and it can be quite hard to get the damn things out of where they died even if you wanted to. And theyā€™re not exactly good meat
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:09 PM
Sure, nobody would want to do it, but if the law is applied consistently it would make sense for that dubious activity to also be illegal.
19:11
Also, if they're pests, why shouldn't you hunt them?
19:11
Presumably there're enough of them for them to be pests, and you're killing them anyway.
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 7:14 PM
I mean you do, itā€™s commonly colloquially called ā€œhog huntingā€, but itā€™s legally distinct from the way hunting is managed by the State
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:15 PM
It just seems like it shouldn't be any harder to hunt pests than to kill pests and leave the corpses.
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 7:16 PM
Yeah I went and doubled checked, look like itā€™s not a thing.
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The main reason you donā€™t eat pests is that it incentivises breeding more pests
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:17 PM
If you're breeding them, they're livestock, not pests.
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Or creating conditions where more of them show up, same thing
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 7:18 PM
It would be wild management like deer, presumably
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:19 PM
If you're letting your livestock roam free over other people's property, that's at least rude and probably illegal too, so it takes care of itself.
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 7:20 PM
Itā€™s extremely hard to contain hogs, and in many parts of Texas deer and other animals already do that. Once again though, these wouldnā€™t be live stock. Theyā€™d be game
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:22 PM
1. You shouldn't hunt pests, because that incentivises making more pests 2. If you're making things easier for an animal population with the intent of eating them, they're not pests but livestock 3. Therefore, hunting pests leads instead to keeping livestock
19:23
You are presumably liable for the containment of your livestock, no?
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Hard to prove theyā€™re yours.
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:24 PM
If the penalties for failing to contain hogs are sufficiently high, people will either contain their hogs or not risk keeping them.
19:24
Ahh, the problem of enforcement strikes again :V
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 7:26 PM
Also, not usually worth the effort, domestic pigs are more docile and taste better
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:27 PM
Not worth the effort ā†’ nobody does it, no?
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Or at least not that many people do it.
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 7:28 PM
Effectively no one. If they did, it would be for hunting, and they breed well. Enough on their own to not need help
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:28 PM
I just feel like this is the kind of problem which is at least capable of solving itself, with a few careful definitions.
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 7:30 PM
Yeah, thatā€™s why weā€™re killing as many of the things as we can. Theyā€™re not worth the damage they cause
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:31 PM
And with the right definitions, you could eat them after.
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And the vultures wouldn't get lead poisoning :V
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Morgrim Moon 12/24/2018 7:32 PM
Hunters here have been caught letting small hogs out of traps or leaving sows alone so there will be more hogs to shoot later, so yeah it can lead to bad incentives. (They'll legal to shoot because there is an extermination campaign)
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MarcusAurelius 12/24/2018 7:34 PM
They cause a ridiculous amount of damage to farms, and theyā€™re relatively hard to kill
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 7:35 PM
hmm
19:54
"Salamander fur", really?
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Morgrim Moon 12/24/2018 7:58 PM
salamanders were often drawn with a 'mane' going down their back, so makes sense to me
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Well, it's clearly something's fur.
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I wonder if Eliera would actually have Salamanders with asbestos fur
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0111narwhalz 12/24/2018 9:19 PM
If not, I bet the folks at REV's mythologiae department have done something about it.
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/25/2018 1:55 AM
Hooo ho ho merry equinoxxxx
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0111narwhalz 12/25/2018 2:03 AM
and there was a substantial amount of rejoicing
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/25/2018 2:34 AM
I woke up at 3am so Iā€™m gonna do a few predawn sets of UNIEL
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0111narwhalz 12/25/2018 2:35 AM
UNIEL?
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/25/2018 2:37 AM
Under Night In Birth Exe:Late[st]
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0111narwhalz 12/25/2018 2:37 AM
ā€¦Somehow that didn't seem to clarify anything.
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/25/2018 2:41 AM
Time to kill before dawnnnn since I underslept
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0111narwhalz 12/25/2018 5:31 AM
hmm
05:32
How long would WD-40 + propellant last in a properly sealed, opaque pressure vessel, in optimal thermal conditions?
05:32
Its MSDS simply lists it as "stable."
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Morgrim Moon 12/25/2018 5:33 AM
well, my can is about 12 yrs old and still functioned fine a few weeks ago, despite being stored in very thermally unoptimal conditions
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@BizarroLand ā™€ Equinox is fall and spring, winter solstice was Dec 21st
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Merry Yule!
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MarcusAurelius 12/25/2018 12:36 PM
Io Saturnalia!
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Happy Rebirth-of-Sol-Invictus Day!
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Morgrim Moon 12/25/2018 9:24 PM
Happy Midsummer-can-we-have-some-shade-npw
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MarcusAurelius 12/25/2018 11:35 PM
Move to the culturally relevant hemisphere then
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@MarcusAurelius Northist
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Hemispherist!
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MarcusAurelius 12/26/2018 2:05 PM
Not my fault that most of Australiaā€™s traditions are descended from the northern hemisphere
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cough Aboriginals cough
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MarcusAurelius 12/26/2018 2:05 PM
are a minority, and still relatively marginalized
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Clearly, it's your fault. You traveled back in time, became a Roman emperor, and indirectly caused that. (edited)
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MarcusAurelius 12/26/2018 2:06 PM
My Imperial Alter Ego wasnā€™t too expansionist, and lived after the peak in size of the EMpire
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Speaking of which, the Aboriginals are awesome. To get to Australia, they apparently invented deepwater navigation 60,000 years before the rest of humanity
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MarcusAurelius 12/26/2018 2:09 PM
And because of that, had an almost entirely isolated set of cultures from the rest of humanity. Itā€™s interesting
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Is anyone else here addicted to Factorio?
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I play it occasionally.
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I am also addicted to Kerbal Space Program!
14:14
šŸ˜„
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I just got KSP.
14:58
Still working out a few technical problems on the computer end.
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MarcusAurelius 12/26/2018 3:30 PM
KSP is surprisingly good at running on low end systems as long as youā€™re parts efficient
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It still runs through battery like no-sophont's business.
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MarcusAurelius 12/26/2018 3:32 PM
well yeah, but most laptops can run it for a few hours
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:35 PM
Gaming on a laptop without intending to plug it in seems irresponsible to me.
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MarcusAurelius 12/26/2018 3:36 PM
there are times where you canā€™t though, and itā€™s nice having the flexibility
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:36 PM
But then again, the only laptops I've used are workstation models with old batteries, which are far from the most efficient in terms of power to gaming performance.
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(well, them and little netbooks that can barely run their OS)
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Like 100%-~20% battery in 15-30 minutes.
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:37 PM
How old is the battery? :V
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Yeaaaah...... that isn't a good situation to generalize from
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I only have a desktop because modern laptops are basically awful for anything but power efficiency. Unless you get a stupidly expensive one.
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:40 PM
portability, performance, efficiencyā€”pick two
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I'd like portability and performance, but that's also stupidly expensive.
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MarcusAurelius 12/26/2018 3:42 PM
Eh, most laptops have decent performance for everything but the most intense games
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:42 PM
Until I saw what a workstation graphics card could do in CAD, my "plan" for meeting my college's tech requirements was to strap a monitor to my desktop.
15:42
Since I didn't intend to use it away from an outlet anyway.
15:42
(this was not actually a serious plan, by the way :V)
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I play Minecraft with quite a lot of mods, and also want something relatively high-speed to compile code.
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:43 PM
Do you write proper-like applications?
15:43
All my little programs compile instantaneously :V
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I use Rust, the compiler's a bit slow.
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compiling is one of the few non-graphical workloads that can eat as many cores as you can give it
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:44 PM
ah, C#::Mono here
15:44
(sometimes C::gcc now)
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I know a bit of C but would never want to use it seriously.
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:45 PM
I mean, to be fair, I don't think any of my programs have topped a thousand lines.
15:45
Mostly I write C#, and then if I need performance, I port it to C.
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Well, I guess one of them has, but I haven't compiled it in a very long time.
15:49
(One of my codevelopers made a .csproj file, and I have no idea what to do with those.)
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It's something to do with the horrible Microsoft build tools.
15:49
I quite like F# but it's so horrible to get it to actually work.
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Basically, it's a makefile.
15:50
Feed it to msbuild.
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There are a bunch of F# project scaffolding tools which mostly work, but it's very annoying.
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:51 PM
I see libmono-addins-msbuild in the repos.
15:51
Let's see if that's what I need :V
15:52
yeah didn't provide msbuild
15:52
ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ
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If I remember right, Mono calls their version of the tool "xbuild".
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:52 PM
ah
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hey that one has a manpage
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People read those?
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:53 PM
I do when I have no idea how to use a piece of software :V
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I don't know if it's up to date with the latest msbuild format, though; they modified that with .NET Core to make the handling of packages better.
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:55 PM
ā€¦Why does it use slashes for flags?
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Windows!
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:55 PM
This is not POSIX compliant :V
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Been a while since I used Mono; the last project I did for Linux used .NET Core, because that was easier with a cross-platform codebase.
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:56 PM
.NET Core sounds like an aggregate of libraries.
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Whole net platform, designed to replace .NET Framework in the long run. Same languages, most of the same libraries, but cross platform on Windows, Linux, macOS, and I think there're a couple of other builds out there too. Basically the new hotness.
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Doesn't do Windows desktop apps or UWP apps yet, but those are coming in the currently-in-preview 3.0 release. (edited)
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 3:59 PM
neat
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Does it have its own compiler or something?
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Compiler, runtime, libraries, the whole enchilada.
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 4:00 PM
I'll have to look into it, then.
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(Also? Its tools use dashes . Even on Windows, where that's changing over these days, 'cept where backwards compatibility mandates otherwise.)
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0111narwhalz 12/26/2018 4:04 PM
(it has my vote already, in that case)
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Someone appears to have found the 'verse blog using the search terms "robo introduction poop scene". I don't even want to know.
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0111narwhalz 12/27/2018 2:51 PM
I have no less than several questions, but I don't really want them to be answered.
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My personal site seems to have been shown in search results for lastssh gitea patchwork emergency_restart_threshold mathematics textbook +publishers rock homeworlds sha384 is not supported by your openssl extension, could not verify the phar file integrity nginx ensite guihacker.com
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Some of these make sense, but I have no idea how mathematics textbook +publishers is related.
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The stuff which shows up highest for clicks and impressions is random commits from a few of my git repositories.
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Morgrim Moon 12/27/2018 6:18 PM
sometimes I wonder if the weirder searches are them looking for something else, your site popping up in the search for whatever reason, and the person deciding "what the hell that isn't it but it looks interesting"
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I follow a couple of biologist blogs that I found looking up odd stuff like "crocodile groin ligaments" or "parrot safe anaesthetics" (common thread: speculative maniraptorian biology)
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could also be primitive web crawlers following every link they find
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Enderminion 12/29/2018 4:11 PM
the '6' button on my TV remote is broke, recent entries into trying to change the channel: 20, 20, 20, 20, 620, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 620, 20, 20, 6200, 20, 20
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Put in 59 and go up to 62? I assume you want 62.
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MarcusAurelius 12/29/2018 4:43 PM
In conlang news, Iā€™m about to begin the near-complete reconstruction of my first one
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Can anyone recommend useful self-hostable stuff?
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MarcusAurelius 12/29/2018 5:04 PM
Self-hostable? For what?
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I'm currently looking for decent note-taking stuff and also a bookmark management thingy.
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Bookie is what I use for the latter. DokuWiki for the former.
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I looked at Bookie, but its website seems to be broken.
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MarcusAurelius 12/29/2018 5:11 PM
Iā€™ve been getting by with Evernote for notetaking
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And the repository says it was last updated in 2015.
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Yeah. I wasnā€™t happy about that myself, but it was still the best option I found for the job.
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And at least I know Python if I need to hack on it.
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MarcusAurelius 12/30/2018 9:43 AM
Ah. Not a villain, just a dick
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... all according to plan!
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Morgrim Moon 12/31/2018 4:44 AM
A farmer in far north WA captures the bizarre sight of a knot of cane toads hitching a ride on a python in the middle of the night.
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/31/2018 8:49 AM
Happy 2019
08:50
For our Oz contingent at least
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Morgrim Moon 12/31/2018 8:50 AM
2hrs here still
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/31/2018 8:50 AM
Itā€™s 11am midnight wonā€™t arrive for 13 hours
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Morgrim Moon 12/31/2018 8:51 AM
I'll let you know if a shockwave of snakes and spiders and crocodiles is heading west
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/31/2018 8:51 AM
China huh
08:51
Or Perth whatever
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Morgrim Moon 12/31/2018 8:51 AM
No, west australia
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/31/2018 8:51 AM
Time zones are split weirdly over there
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Morgrim Moon 12/31/2018 8:52 AM
west china is the most populated area of that country, so east china just defaults to the west's "natural" timezone
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Singapore joins us despite being way too far west, because their biggest trading partners are in GMT+8
08:53
the other wiggles are almost all "we don't want this one island in a different timezone"
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BizarroLand ā™€ 12/31/2018 8:54 AM
Kiribati still want to be special and see the year in first
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Morgrim Moon 12/31/2018 8:54 AM
I am not counting that as remotely in my region šŸ˜›
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Yes, happy slightly belated new year!
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So, there's a Star Wars fic, Hull 721. Very competent military Sci-Fi. It contains Star Destroyer Engineer's Favorite Party Trick.
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So, modern ships kinda exceed what matter can take. So, all the stucture is there to hose and align reactors and force field emitters, very precisely tuned and calibrated.
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For party trick, you need to hack with computers a bit, remote control and aerosol can of fusion fuel. Party trick? Balloon animals made out of force field and filled with plasma, actively undergoing fusion.
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Yes, engieer and partygoers are in same room.
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As are balloons.
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Link?
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Questionable Content has really been getting into the "modern day Singularity" worldbuilding recently
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I think I'd still prefer a brain transplant to copying, even if I was running on artificial substrate.
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@Zarpaulek Questionable Content or Questionable Questing?
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BizarroLand ā™€ 01/02/2019 1:56 AM
Stellaris:
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So, does the Xenophobe ethic or No Refugees policy make you Evil-aligned
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MarcusAurelius 01/02/2019 2:41 AM
Not necessarily
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BizarroLand ā™€ 01/02/2019 3:03 AM
I mean in the end I play an Inward Perfection Celestial Empire
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MarcusAurelius 01/02/2019 3:03 AM
I like to feed the swarm a lot
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BizarroLand ā™€ 01/02/2019 3:03 AM
So itā€™s more ā€˜Foreigners will not understand our way of lifeā€™ than ā€˜Xeno scumā€™
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MarcusAurelius 01/02/2019 3:03 AM
Aka Modern US
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BizarroLand ā™€ 01/02/2019 3:07 AM
?
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MarcusAurelius 01/02/2019 3:08 AM
The US populace and laws are still generally against large scale immigration
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BizarroLand ā™€ 01/02/2019 3:34 AM
Some people might be disgusted by a non multicultural society
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MarcusAurelius 01/02/2019 3:35 AM
True, but thereā€™s the south and the flyover states
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Depends.
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MarcusAurelius 01/02/2019 3:36 AM
Where foreigner means ā€œMexicans coming with drugs to take out jobsā€ or ā€œdamned communistsā€
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So far RE multi-culturalism, the most disgust I have seen was when people modded the "human" template of Stellaris to take out the POC and asian faces.
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MarcusAurelius 01/02/2019 3:36 AM
Not that many of them will say it to a strangerā€™s face, but the sentiment exists.
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'Cause apparently a future humanity can't actually represent the breath of our species. šŸ¤·
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MarcusAurelius 01/02/2019 3:37 AM
Racism and xenophobia at least in my experience are related but distinct issues
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BizarroLand ā™€ 01/02/2019 3:38 AM
@Unknown does having your refugee policy set to No Refugees make you... evil doe (edited)
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shrug Je m'en fiche.
03:43
I don't care about that sort of stuff. You do as you do.
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MarcusAurelius 01/02/2019 3:44 AM
Cerebrate seems to believe in objective morality, not sure about the rest of us
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I donā€™t, at most thereā€™s some moral stances that are more conducive to civilization
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I havenā€™t had any problems with multiculturalism in my Stellaris games though. My homeworld in my current game had almost a dozen species on it before I unlocked Xeno-Compatibility
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Well, maybe a bit of overcrowding from all those Horde refugees landing on one specific planet
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BizarroLand ā™€ 01/02/2019 6:36 AM
I always play a Chinese isolationist style
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@Zarpaulek Once I decided to play a game where I invited migrants in, and they got to such a degree that a xenophile faction appeared
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The support quickly reached the level needed to adopt the ethic and I did so, simulating a liberalization
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Iā€˜m kinda in the middle? I donā€˜t principally think objective morality is a thing, however I think that objectively, adopting a set of axiomic moralities is a better game move than not.
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Oh, I tend to start out with Xenophile as a founding ethic
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Oddly, Iā€™ve noticed that after annexing a Xenophobic empireā€™s planets I get immigrants of their species with the Xenophile ethos on my homeworld
07:08
"Finaly the nutcases arenā€˜t in charge anymore!"
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Enderminion 01/02/2019 7:12 AM
America! ---- Yeah!
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Morgrim Moon 01/02/2019 9:29 PM
"How do we dispose of this dry ice?" [several suggestions later] "How do we responsibly dispose of this dry ice in a way that does not involve fog machines, mad science or safety violations?" Spoilsport. :(
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0111narwhalz 01/02/2019 9:31 PM
ā€¦I don't know any such ways.
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The philosophical Meaning of dry ice is mad science (with attendant fog machines and safety violations). This person should be ignored.
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what's wrong with fog machines?
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MarcusAurelius 01/02/2019 10:25 PM
ā€œProfessionalismā€ read ā€œboring people currently control the budgetā€
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Eldrae arenā€™t fans of planned obsolescencec right?
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Probably especially when it comes to bodies.
07:07
So belike the situation encountered in that situation up there would be the kind of unethical thing that doesnā€˜t fly either way.
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Morgrim Moon 01/04/2019 7:07 AM
selling upgrade kits seems more likely. Keep your body, get the new and shiny features
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I got the impression they mostly did bodies bespoke.
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And then let you get a shitty shell for the two weeks it takes to cook.
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Morgrim Moon 01/04/2019 7:12 AM
there might be mid-level bodies that are more basic kits you then customise to taste, rather than bespoke. Sort of like buying a suit off the rack and getting it tailored is cheaper than made to measure, but gives very nice results
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Fair.
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Personally I would always argue that you have the implicit right to have your body restored provided a template for its construction exists, and that that body was destroyed in an accident.
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You didn't choose to loose the body by choice, after all. That's unwillfull restriction of morphological freedom.
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Well, I don't really think that applies in an eldraic context beyond the extent to which you have insurance/regular money to pay for it.
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Your body is exactly as sacred as any other possession.
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Except in as much as you need it to live.
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So while you def should be able to (And I don't see why you wouldn't)
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I don't think there's a sacred right demanding you have the body you want beyond "You can hire a bored person with a bio-printer/vat complex/w/e to make it") (edited)
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@Archon I think you have the right to have the body of your choice insofar as: a.) you did not abandon your previous body willingly or by the consequences of your own actions b.) That the manufacturer chose to abandon line manufacture doesn't mean people who lost their chassis due to accidents and do not wish to chose a different (and/or more expensive) successor model forfeit their right to have it replaced (and be that by commissioned manufacture through a different entity.)
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That's personal oppinion I should stress, but it's both logical and seems consistent with Eldrae thinking.
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... I really understand where you're coming from.
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But I don't see that as the holy law that would shine through the generally pretty hands-off eldrae government?
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Like, your right to re-buy the same car when your old one breaks down?
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Is not sacred and holy.
07:48
And this feel analagous.
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Enderminion 01/04/2019 7:48 AM
yeah
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Not particularly. A car is a means of transportion. A sleeve is your physical avatar.
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Enderminion 01/04/2019 7:49 AM
and?
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Intuitive and associative physical avatar, I should add.
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Noticably, the Eldrae society at large is still very much physical-slanted, and doesn't treat bodies as opportunistic mobility plattforms.
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No further and, @Enderminion. Your and Archon's position does not logically follow for me.
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It's trying to oversimplify an issue for convinience when in extension of ethics, it isn't as functionally simple as you try to treat it.
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Or, if we were to reslant it into the Eldrae, they are a physically post-scarcity society and the refusal to replace a body destroyed in an accident is supremely assholish and unnessecary behavior of the IP parties involved.
07:51
Making it the same situation as how to deal with people who went bankrupt.
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Indeed, it would be deeply assholish.
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But the eldrae do not legislate away people's ability to be assholes.
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(In general, uh, that's what insurance is for, also?)
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Morgrim Moon 01/04/2019 7:59 AM
except if you're compelling someone to manufacture something for you, that's super against eldrae values
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I think IP expires comparatively quickly, so if you want to take a now free to use older pattern and do what you will with it, that's one thing. But if someone hand crafts a limited run of a particular sleeve, and then through no fault of your own you are struck by a meteor and have your sleeve destroyed, you can't demand they make you a new body OR that they cough up their still-protected IP, because that's choice-theft
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grrrrr Had an argument with a anti-genetics idiot, and am sufficiently annoyed that I'm going to inflict it on everyone else https://as.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/ac1q9p/socjus_tim_pool_activists_say_curing_disease_is/ed66dtl/
Posted in r/KotakuInAction by u/Sh1r0_Vx ā€¢ 490 points and 256 comments
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(I'm J_Von_Random)
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TotallyNotHuman 01/04/2019 11:07 AM
What's as.reddit? Asia? It makes punctuation and numerals look weird. (edited)
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just replace it with www. as.reddit is the only one that makes the Bioshock subreddit display the rapture CSS properly
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TotallyNotHuman 01/04/2019 11:11 AM
Huh, interesting
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It's not a huge deal anyways
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"we should spread the meme that gene editing is genocide"
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wat
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r/kotakuinaction oh goody, that place.
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what does "kotaku in action" even mean ?
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TotallyNotHuman 01/04/2019 11:25 AM
Their "mission": KotakuInAction is a platform for open discussion of the issues where gaming, nerd culture, the Internet, and media collide. We believe that the current standards of ethics in the media have alienated the artists, developers, and creators who perpetuate the things we love, enjoy, and enthusiastically build communities around. We have observed numerous incidents involving conflicts of interest and agenda-pushing within media which we feel are damaging to the credibility of the medium and harm the community at large. We believe much of the current media is complicit in the proliferation of an ideology that squashes individuality, divides along political lines, and is stifling to the freedom of creativity that is the foundation of human expression. KotakuInAction is a community that condemns willful censorship, exclusion, harassment, and abuse. It is a community that organizes to hold the media accountable to the concept of artistic freedom by standing up for the artist, the developer, the writer, the filmmaker, and all who enjoy the freedom to create, explore, and expand. It is a community that allows the exchange of information, supports the ongoing discussion of media ethics, and protects the right of the individual to embrace their personal interests in entertainment and fandom. KotakuInAction is built around a core focus on reasonable, friendly discussion of the issues related to gaming culture, and those involved in it. That is not all we are about, but it's where we began and will remain our core. We hold ourselves to be politically neutral ground, not forcing anyone to conform in their opinions, and permitting a wide variety of viewpoints to express themselves in a civil manner.
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I'd think it also attracts a fair amout of people who do support things that KiA does not.
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@o11o1 It's the primary Gamergate / anti-SJW discussion forum
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A cesspool mixture of Anti-SJW, right-wrong snowflakes, misghonistic biggots, people who actually have a point, and other things.
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i managed to miss out on most of the whole gamer gate crisis. I just enjoy playing stuff
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goes over rest of comments aaand yeap, there's the establishment of KotakuInAction.
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The war against Brazilā€™s indigenous people has begun. Far-right Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro wasted no time his first two days in office, signing a decree Wednesday that hands over power to designate indigenous lands to the Ministry of Agriculture, a move that could h...
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Test
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Crap I canā€™t see any messages from Discord
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That could be a problem
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Never mind it fixed.
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MarcusAurelius 01/04/2019 4:15 PM
Bipartisan cooperation at its finest
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On earlier points: 1. Replacing your body if it is accidentallied is what incarnation insurance is for. There are no freebies, inasmuch as "freebie" is short for "make someone else pay for it". (If you bought cheap incarnation insurance, it may only cover bringing you back as an infomorph, and if you bought no incarnation insurance, then you're stuck hoping that some generous soph will pay to have you brought out of dead storage. So keep up your incarnation cover, folks.) 2. You don't have an automatic right to replace anything that someone else has to make for you, obviously. On the other hand, unless you're running around in a body that's a copyrighted artistic work (and less than 144 years old) or a hand-build custom job, it is very likely that you bought a perpetual license and need only call the local fab shop. (Or your incarnation insurer will do so.) 3. Even if you are an exception to the above, there are plenty of body hotels out there renting out inexpensive vatjobs of a variety of common clades, because if you just need to take a quick meeting on an outer-system moon one afternoon, it's a bit precious to send, grow, and dispose of the details of your very own small intestine, etc., just for that. 4. "doesn't treat bodies as opportunistic mobility plattforms" Er, who said? Most people tend to stick to one primary body or primary body design, certainly, because it's theirs , and thus comfortable, the same way most people prefer to live in their own houses, drive their own cars, use their own computers, and wear their own pants. But that doesn't stop anyone from renting a vatjob for a day trip, or a specialized body for a specialized purpose.
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So what does an AI whose shell modrlhas gotten the iPhone treatment do?
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what do you mean by "the iPhone treatment" ?
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if they're just all white and smooth that's simply a fashion statement
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